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Comments on: Accessing Equality California and Questions About Any New Campaign http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/ Tue, 21 May 2013 11:13:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Unitethefight http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/#comment-19842 Unitethefight Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:28:00 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=29824#comment-19842 Michael, I recently attended a town hall in WeHo hosted by EQCA (Palencia and Carroll were there, and I got caught up with Karen) about whether or not to return to the ballot in 2012 to repeal Prop 8. I also know they were holding one in East LA and this one followed one in SF.  I'm not one to constantly defend EQCA, but this is a fact. So I ask you to be more specific in what is it you want. What kind of event/town hall do you want and what issues do you want them to address? Phillip Michael,
I recently attended a town hall in WeHo hosted by EQCA (Palencia and Carroll were there, and I got caught up with Karen) about whether or not to return to the ballot in 2012 to repeal Prop 8. I also know they were holding one in East LA and this one followed one in SF. 

I’m not one to constantly defend EQCA, but this is a fact. So I ask you to be more specific in what is it you want. What kind of event/town hall do you want and what issues do you want them to address?
Phillip

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By: lambda98 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/#comment-19121 lambda98 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:04:00 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=29824#comment-19121 Glad to have info from Ted Green. I take it that if we put a referendum to repeal Prop 8 on the ballot, we would also be voting Yes on that. That would simplify things if we could just be urging people to vote Yes for equal rights. Glad to have info from Ted Green. I take it that if we put a referendum to repeal Prop 8 on the ballot, we would also be voting Yes on that. That would simplify things if we could just be urging people to vote Yes for equal rights.

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By: MPetrelis http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/#comment-18754 MPetrelis Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:00:00 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=29824#comment-18754 karen, the community was not 'shocked' geoff kors FINALLY resigned in late december. his departure was long overdue. another thing that is not shocking is how you again fail to raise the issue of regular town hall meetings hosted by EQCA. that is the same approach you took when you wrote cheerleading piece after cheerleading piece about EQCA when they were not holding town halls as they looked for a new ED. roland can blather on all he wants about the community taking ownership of the battle to defeat the ballot prop over SB 48, but he first has to address the lack of community ownership toward EQCA. beyond a recent cocktail reception in SF, i am not aware of any democratic engagement by roland and EQCA since he took over. i guess they're still not ready for prime time and he clearly did not hit the ground running. oh, well, nothing much to worry about in that roland is consulting with kors!! when our opponents read this piece, i'm sure they'll understand the 2008 playbook that lost us gay marriage and prop 8 is the same playbook EQCA will use in 2012. the TVC and their partners are on their way to another victory and they have NOTHING to worry about with EQCA and mark leno in charge of california gays. karen,

the community was not ‘shocked’ geoff kors FINALLY resigned in late december. his departure was long overdue.

another thing that is not shocking is how you again fail to raise the issue of regular town hall meetings hosted by EQCA. that is the same approach you took when you wrote cheerleading piece after cheerleading piece about EQCA when they were not holding town halls as they looked for a new ED.

roland can blather on all he wants about the community taking ownership of the battle to defeat the ballot prop over SB 48, but he first has to address the lack of community ownership toward EQCA. beyond a recent cocktail reception in SF, i am not aware of any democratic engagement by roland and EQCA since he took over.

i guess they’re still not ready for prime time and he clearly did not hit the ground running. oh, well, nothing much to worry about in that roland is consulting with kors!!

when our opponents read this piece, i’m sure they’ll understand the 2008 playbook that lost us gay marriage and prop 8 is the same playbook EQCA will use in 2012. the TVC and their partners are on their way to another victory and they have NOTHING to worry about with EQCA and mark leno in charge of california gays.

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By: Box Turtle Bulletin » Good-bye, Equality California, it’s been a good run http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/#comment-18619 Box Turtle Bulletin » Good-bye, Equality California, it’s been a good run Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:52:43 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=29824#comment-18619 [...] Equality California and the change in focus which he wishes to bring with him to the organization. (LGBT POV) Palencia, who officially assumed the job on July 5, advocates a shift in the EQCA’s focus from [...] [...] Equality California and the change in focus which he wishes to bring with him to the organization. (LGBT POV) Palencia, who officially assumed the job on July 5, advocates a shift in the EQCA’s focus from [...]

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By: Karenocamb http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/#comment-18615 Karenocamb Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:01:00 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=29824#comment-18615 Thanks, Ted. This is so confusing for everyone and that's why it's so important to raise all of these questions now. Thanks, Ted. This is so confusing for everyone and that’s why it’s so important to raise all of these questions now.

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By: Ted Green http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2011/07/26/accessing-equality-california-and-questions-about-any-new-campaign/#comment-18614 Ted Green Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:48:00 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=29824#comment-18614 An excellent article, as always.  One clarification -- if a referendum on SB 48 qualifies for the ballot we'd be on the "Yes" side.  We would not be urging defeat of the referendum. In a referendum the voters essentially take on the role of legislators and have the right to either pass the bill (Vote Yes) or defeat the bill (Vote No). As we saw during Prop. 8, the Yes vs. No confusion can be a huge factor.  In order to succeed we've got to get this one right from the get go. Carry on! Ted Green An excellent article, as always.  One clarification — if a referendum on SB 48 qualifies for the ballot we’d be on the “Yes” side.  We would not be urging defeat of the referendum.

In a referendum the voters essentially take on the role of legislators and have the right to either pass the bill (Vote Yes) or defeat the bill (Vote No).

As we saw during Prop. 8, the Yes vs. No confusion can be a huge factor.  In order to succeed we’ve got to get this one right from the get go.

Carry on!

Ted Green

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