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Comments on: Air Force Sgt. Erwynn Umali Weds Will Behrens on Military Base in New Jersey http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/ Tue, 21 May 2013 11:13:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: 60 Reasons to be Proud in 2012 — The Good Men Project http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-180938 60 Reasons to be Proud in 2012 — The Good Men Project Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:36:34 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-180938 [...] 42. Will Behrens and Erwynn Umali were able to profess their love to each other in the first gay union held on a U.S. military base. Via: lgbtpov.frontiersla.com [...] [...] 42. Will Behrens and Erwynn Umali were able to profess their love to each other in the first gay union held on a U.S. military base. Via: lgbtpov.frontiersla.com [...]

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By: 60 Reasons To Be Proud In 2012 - TheGayHotSpot.com http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-178079 60 Reasons To Be Proud In 2012 - TheGayHotSpot.com Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:38:08 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-178079 [...] 42. Will Behrens and Erwynn Umali were able to profess their love to each other in the first gay union held on a U.S. military base. Via: lgbtpov.frontiersla.com [...] [...] 42. Will Behrens and Erwynn Umali were able to profess their love to each other in the first gay union held on a U.S. military base. Via: lgbtpov.frontiersla.com [...]

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By: 60 Reasons to be Proud in 2012! - The Center Orlando http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-176850 60 Reasons to be Proud in 2012! - The Center Orlando Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:45:48 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-176850 [...] 42. Will Behrens and Erwynn Umali were able to profess their love to each other in the first gay union held on a U.S. military base. Via: lgbtpov.frontiersla.com [...] [...] 42. Will Behrens and Erwynn Umali were able to profess their love to each other in the first gay union held on a U.S. military base. Via: lgbtpov.frontiersla.com [...]

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By: Buut Ranger http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-62983 Buut Ranger Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:16:50 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-62983 Gaaaayyyyy Gaaaayyyyy

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By: Me http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-58402 Me Mon, 09 Jul 2012 04:00:57 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-58402 It's nice that they are married or civil union w.e you wanna call it. Does it really make it a hug deal it's a wedding no matter how others look at it ??! It’s nice that they are married or civil union w.e you wanna call it. Does it really make it a hug deal it’s a wedding no matter how others look at it ??!

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By: Equality Roundup: Pride in California / Equality across the U.S. | EQCA Blog http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-53660 Equality Roundup: Pride in California / Equality across the U.S. | EQCA Blog Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:35:55 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-53660 [...] in New Jersey, the first same-sex civil union was held on a military base, and it looked a lot like a wedding, with an Evangelical Lutheran Chaplain officiating, a couple in [...] [...] in New Jersey, the first same-sex civil union was held on a military base, and it looked a lot like a wedding, with an Evangelical Lutheran Chaplain officiating, a couple in [...]

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By: Steve http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-53196 Steve Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:53:35 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-53196 That's true, but in the article you basically said "it's not a wedding, but a civil union". There you conflated the terms "wedding" and "marriage" which are two different things. One a ceremony and one is the legal state of being married. You can have either of those two without the other. That’s true, but in the article you basically said “it’s not a wedding, but a civil union”. There you conflated the terms “wedding” and “marriage” which are two different things. One a ceremony and one is the legal state of being married. You can have either of those two without the other.

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By: Steve http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-53193 Steve Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:45:08 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-53193 It's certainly a wedding. A wedding is just a ceremony. It's not a marriage, which is the legal state of being married. But you can call any similar ceremony, whether it's a commitment ceremony or a civil union a "wedding" It’s certainly a wedding. A wedding is just a ceremony. It’s not a marriage, which is the legal state of being married. But you can call any similar ceremony, whether it’s a commitment ceremony or a civil union a “wedding”

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By: Karen Ocamb http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-53153 Karen Ocamb Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:37:37 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-53153 Michael - I don't appreciate you going off on Sue Fulton like that. You've been following this effort for a long time and you KNOW there is a "risk of an ugly backlash from extremists." She can speak for herself, of course, but in my experience working with Sue, she has done everything to both accommodate my requests as a journalist AND serve the members of OutServe, according to THEIR wishes. Frankly, your comments comes off as extremely sexist. Michael – I don’t appreciate you going off on Sue Fulton like that. You’ve been following this effort for a long time and you KNOW there is a “risk of an ugly backlash from extremists.” She can speak for herself, of course, but in my experience working with Sue, she has done everything to both accommodate my requests as a journalist AND serve the members of OutServe, according to THEIR wishes. Frankly, your comments comes off as extremely sexist.

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By: Michael Bedwell http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/2012/06/24/air-force-sgt-erwynn-umali-weds-will-behrens-on-military-base-in-new-jersey/#comment-53131 Michael Bedwell Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:34:38 +0000 http://lgbtpov.frontiersla.com/?p=41284#comment-53131 Correct word choice is such a challenge in these things. One MSM story made the distinction that they had gotten a marriage license in New York, therefore, they ARE "married" albeit not recognized as such in the state the ceremony was conducted in. Could you please attempt to verify if this is true, Karen? [Given how often the AP gets facts wrong, that they "quote" the couple calling it a "civil union" means nothing.] As for so-called "OutServe Communications Director Brenda S. 'Sue' Fulton," GREAT job of putting the "fear of public outcry [and] risk of ugly backlash from extremists" in EVERY OTHER COUPLE who MIGHT have had the courage to NOT stay in the closet that Ms. Fulton seems to willfully chained to but, rather, continue to positively help make gay and lesbian service members visible—something extremely necessary if the continuing arbitrary discrimination policies of the Pentagon are to be overcome. So could someone please remind her that her group is called OUTserve? OF COURSE, each individual and couple has the "right" to do whatever they choose, but thank Goddess others had the courage Fulton never had when she was in the Army herself or the ban would NEVER have ended. Perhaps it's time the VA started treating "PCSD"—Post Closet Stress Disorder—until then I fear this "spokesperson" will continue misspeaking. Correct word choice is such a challenge in these things. One MSM story made the distinction that they had gotten a marriage license in New York, therefore, they ARE “married” albeit not recognized as such in the state the ceremony was conducted in. Could you please attempt to verify if this is true, Karen? [Given how often the AP gets facts wrong, that they "quote" the couple calling it a "civil union" means nothing.]

As for so-called “OutServe Communications Director Brenda S. ‘Sue’ Fulton,” GREAT job of putting the “fear of public outcry [and] risk of ugly backlash from extremists” in EVERY OTHER COUPLE who MIGHT have had the courage to NOT stay in the closet that Ms. Fulton seems to willfully chained to but, rather, continue to positively help make gay and lesbian service members visible—something extremely necessary if the continuing arbitrary discrimination policies of the Pentagon are to be overcome. So could someone please remind her that her group is called OUTserve? OF COURSE, each individual and couple has the “right” to do whatever they choose, but thank Goddess others had the courage Fulton never had when she was in the Army herself or the ban would NEVER have ended. Perhaps it’s time the VA started treating “PCSD”—Post Closet Stress Disorder—until then I fear this “spokesperson” will continue misspeaking.

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